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Happy Hour / Re: Find out if you're on the list
« Last post by tangentalstorm on Today at 12:47:31 AM »
I read through a bunch of those lists for the fun of it and was thoroughly disheartened to read that where I live is considered the 6th best place to live in the USA... Why disheartened you ask? Because it means more DamnYankees will move to Virginia. Now before any of my more Northerly friends on here take offense let me explain that there is a vast difference between a Yankee and a DamnYankee. A Yankee is a person born north of the Mason-Dixon and can be just fine to get along with. A DamnYankee is one of those who moves to an area because of the charm of it then almost immediately starts trying to change that area and before too long starts whining because the charm is gone..... Well DUH!
Homesteading Skills / Re: Robber in the Apiary!!!
« Last post by tangentalstorm on July 23, 2017, 11:59:10 PM »
I am fascinated by this thread... My better half used to keep bees in a former life and has expressed that we are going to be doing it in the spring when I get home (which means I don't get a say in it of course). So to try and get ahead of the bees I am going to plant fall clover in the lower field for them so next spring they will have something to work with. I am also going to plant a bunch of fruit trees but they will be too small to help the bees starting out.

WD...what kind of clover did you sow?
General Discussion / Re: Raised Bed - Absolute Disaster Year
« Last post by tangentalstorm on July 23, 2017, 11:39:55 PM »
valvguy.....just my .02 but it sounds like a combination of things happened here...

sounds like the soil needed some amending (like it needed a decent compost to mix with the "organic soil" and some calcium/garden lime),

went a little too heavy on the nitrogen (Miracle Grow is as I understand almost straight nitrogen, to save you a little money and give you better results get yourself some basic 10-10-10 from any farm store next time and at least you will get an even feeding across the N-P-K scale)

and too much rain and not enough drainage...check the drainage on your beds to make sure they aren't puddling.

Not a d*mn thing you can do about the rain...

I doubt it was the weed barrier poisoning them but hey ya never time spend the extra couple of bucks and go with a brand you know won't add chemicals.

JMHO...Hope this helps.
General Discussion / Raised Bed - Absolute Disaster Year
« Last post by valvguy on July 23, 2017, 11:12:18 PM »
OK, so this year has been an absolute disaster for my raised beds

(2) 2 x 10 with Cherokee Purple 4 per bed
(1) 4 x 4 with (2) Cherokee Purple (1) Burpless Cuke (1) Straight 8 Cuke
(1) 4 x 12 with Cuke either end Burpless one end Boston Pickling other end.  (3) Celebrity (1) Sweet 100 (2) Parks Whopper
(1) 6 x 12   (30) corn plants, Edamame, Lake Runner Pole Beans, Squash, Hungarian Wax Pepper, Green Pepper, Eggplant, Zucchini

All the above plants approx 4/10/17

6 x 12 Bed:   Edamame never germinated - used innoculant.  Corn was doing great until storm came and blew the entire crop over.  Squash and Zucchini killed by Squash Borer.  Had (1) Mini Green Pepper.  Wax Peppers Grew Great.  Pole Beans are covering the Trellis - not one bean pod.  No eggplant yet.  Bed pretty much a complete Fail.

4 x 4 yielded a couple of straight 8s, (2 or 3) CP slightly larger than cherry toms.  Little tiny stems.  Bed was a complete FAIL.

(2)  2 x 10 CP grew to about 6 or 7 feet - produced about 2 or 3 fruits total from eight plants.   Still have some blossoms?  Stumped as to Fail Reason.

4 x 12 Celebrity yielded 2 fruit total from all 3 plants.  Cherry Toms - maybe a dozen.  Parks Whopper none.  Boston Pickling yielded a few cukes that had nice size and shape.  Crop turned mis-shaped and orange early on.  Burpless yielded maybe 1/4  to 1/3 normal crop.  I guess not a complete fail but pretty much so.

So I don't know what happened.  Maybe a couple of clues.......  (3) beds were new this year.  (2) 2 x 10 (1) 4 x 12   I bought "organic bulk soil" from LA Nursery and planted w/o adding any soil ammendments.  On all of the beds with the exception of the 6 x 12 I bought a weed barrier cloth from Dollar Tree.  I poked holes thru the weed barrier when planting and transplants seemed to come up ok.  I fertilized, initially, with liquid miracle grow.  Later I side dressed with calcium nitrate. 

6 x 12 had produced decent crop of CP in the past.  More cherry toms than I could ever eat and many, many cukes.  4 x 4 was a prolific producer of cukes over the last couple of years.

Really stumped with the pole beans as they still seem so viable - yet no pods.  Corn looked great too - until it went horizontal from the wind.

Could that weed barrier have poisoned the soil?  Rain like we've had in South LA?  Thumb be brown and putrid instead of green?  Not holding my mouth right?  I'm lost.

General Discussion / Re: What did you do in the garden today ?
« Last post by Double B on July 23, 2017, 10:08:16 PM »
Tell me more about raising turmeric! I got started with ginger this year and hear they are about the same to raise. I couldn't chase down any root to start with like the ginger. It was at Wally world but no turmeric.I'll be bringing that and the celery indoors at frost so turmeric will fit right in!


I am a first time turmeric grower. I was graciously gifted three rhizomes last year and watched a couple of YouTube videos on them. They need heat and humidity and not a lot of water so I planted these last August.  I had a large tub and put some good soil, composted chicken manure and some compost to fill the tub up. You place the rhizomes with the tips facing up and bury them about and inch and a half to two inches deep. I watered them in and waited. It wasn't long and they sprouted and started growing like crazy. They died off early in the winter and went dormant.

I gave the tub an occasional drink when it didn't rain and this spring they came back up. The plants are now several feet tall and have multiplied substantially. I will dig them up in late November this year to harvest the roots. Turmeric has many health benefits and the spice is used in curry dishes. It is my understanding that you can also make a tea out of the peelings from the roots and we will try that too. Once again, my knowledge of this is limited but I enjoy growing just about anything.
Happy Hour / Re: Lets share some old sayings/cliches
« Last post by Monroe on July 23, 2017, 09:44:06 PM »

          "The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and
                    the day you find out why"
                                                                  Mark Twain

I was a post depression baby born on the banks of Sabine bottom. In the mid 60s Jewel & I bought land & later built a house within three miles of my birthplace. We still live at the same place.
General Discussion / Re: What did you do in the garden today ?
« Last post by Gymgirl on July 23, 2017, 09:17:10 PM »
Started 2 quarts of Fermented Tabasco Peppers.
General Discussion / Re: What's the weather like in your area ?
« Last post by Double B on July 23, 2017, 06:41:35 PM »
Friday we got an inch of rain and then today we got another half an inch. The downside is that the grass is growing so fast it needs to be mowed every few days. I would rather have the natural moisture than trying to do it with a hose. I cut okra yesterday and could have cut it again today but I'll wait until the morning.
General Discussion / Re: Simple way to lay weed barrier
« Last post by Texan on July 23, 2017, 05:56:14 PM »
I do not know what context you are in; 3 acres+ or 1/2 acre. If on the smaller side, a system like this works. The fabric allows air and water to enter and lasts more than a year. Can be held in place by cheap sandbags on the sides.
General Discussion / Re: Simple way to lay weed barrier
« Last post by Texan on July 23, 2017, 05:48:28 PM »
If your building, why not build it with the roll behind the rear tires? Why does under the engine lower the cost? Behind the tires, the plastic is pulled tight. Loose plastic will not only tear in wind, but can shift and act like an abrasive to plant stems causing damage or death. Plasticulture has been around a while and they have it figured out pretty good.
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