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Canning failure
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:50:39 AM »
We have canned all of the tomatoes that we need, an gave away a truckload or two, but our tomatoes are still producing an mom is making tomatoe gravy for herself an me, an I said to her that I wondered if you could can tomato gravy.   Well the next time she made gravy she bottled a pint an water bathed it for a short time.  She showed it to me but I didn't take it home at that time.  Several days later mom started smelling something rotten an it was that pint of gravy!   When we talked about it I had told her we should look up the recipe in a canning book, but she didn't an luckily the jar went nasty before the I was killed!   So until I look at the proper way to do it I will have to make my own. 
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 10:58:16 AM »
Years ago my sister inlaw gave me some preserves she had canned for the first time. I had some store bought jam opened and in use at the time so hers sat in the pantry for awhile. Thank goodness it did!! Hers were all moldy when I opened it. She gave a lot away to people ---wonder how many people she made sick?

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 01:51:18 PM »
What was the recipe for the tomato gravy?
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 02:26:11 PM »
STG.  Tomato gravy is made just like sausage gravy but use peeled diced tomatoes rather than sausage.  Oh man you are in for a treat!   I have made sausage gravy an added a can of rotel tomatoes with peppers an that is good but try just tomatoe gravy first.  Good over toast or biscuits. 

Also something I had never tried until a year or so ago was fried bologna gravy.   That is good to for those of us that like fried bologna! 
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 07:31:46 PM »
I am not sure what kind of sauce you are talking about, but if you are adding seasoning like a marinara sauce, Seasoning added, you have to pressure can them.

You can look up USDA Canning guide on internet for proper procedures.  It is a free download sort of large, the whole thing is seven guides but is the latest in canning.  Or if you have a Ball Blue book it is very close to USDA.

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 08:33:10 AM »
Can't be too careful Gopher, back in the early 1930s a Mrs.Hein served some peas she had canned to a dinner party in North Dakota, killed 13 including the Heins and 3 of their children. Botulism.

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 11:15:02 AM »
Wow. I know canned goods can be a hazard but 13 people!  Mom has a blue book but she is a little hard headed.  If I had been there I would have got the book an looked up a recipe, but her theory is it is hot coming out of the pan am you put it in a hot clean jar you shouldn't have to can it for very long...she doesn't can anything other than green beans a tomatoes so that is why she has reached 92.
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 01:58:36 PM »
Did the tomato gravy have any meat in it? 
If yes, definitely needed to be pressure canned. 
If not, then, the pH was not right to safely water bath can.

I'm just getting started pressure canning different foods, but, one thing I've learned that I picked up in a couple tutorials, is the benefit of using pH test strips when canning tomato products, especially if there's ANY question on whether that pH is right...

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 03:11:11 PM »
There was no meat, but the test strips sound like a great idea.
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 04:18:22 PM »
Gopherbroke,
Sounds like the tomatoes she used may not have had enough acidity.  Remember, not all tomatoes are created equal, LOL!   Yep, the test strips could've solved that issue.

Also, fyi, an EXCELLENT canning YouTuber (Jaime at Guildbrook Farm) uses citric acid instead of lemon juice in her tomato canning.  I like that idea!  She buys it in bulk off the net.

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 11:26:22 AM »
Gymgirl

I like the idea of the pH test strips.  Which ones do you use?  Are you able to use these to spot check the pH in the garden too?

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2017, 10:09:04 PM »
We use the pressure Cooker/ canner when we can tomatoes, i know some use the water bath, U cant go wrong when U put them under pressure

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 10:50:43 AM »
NewKYhome,
Sorry, I'm just getting back to this thread, and missed your question.  I've not used the test strips before.  I ran across a YouTube video that shows a canner using them to test for acidity. 

Google it under something like, "using pH Test strips in canning foods".  Something should pop up! ;)
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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 01:25:28 PM »
NewKYhome,
Sorry, I'm just getting back to this thread, and missed your question.  I've not used the test strips before.  I ran across a YouTube video that shows a canner using them to test for acidity. 

Google it under something like, "using pH Test strips in canning foods".  Something should pop up! ;)

No worries - we are all busy and come here for some fun reading.

Good idea - what did we ever do before the Internet?

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Re: Canning failure
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 01:23:10 PM »
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