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Title: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on February 04, 2016, 01:24:16 PM
when we first moved into this house there was a single, very neglected peach tree that looked to be very mature.  it was riddled with borers and canker.  i did a couple of diy dormant sprays and cut off most of the obviously dead branches.  i put some old pennies in the ground in a circle around the tree to try to get it some copper to fight off the disease as well.  ( i know...but the old wives are rarely wrong). 

that spring the tree did flower and get some little peaches start to form, but then every one of them dropped.  i was a bit sad, but based on how the tree looked when we got here, i was just thrilled it bloomed.  i did see great new growth and took it as a good sign.

this past spring/summer (2015) the tree bloomed and we got peaches!  i pulled them asap after they started to blush up-as the birds also realized that the peach tree was back to producing as well!  i would let them sit out a few days on the counter and they would soften up and be delicious!

the thing that still is a problem is the aphids/ants.  i read online that the ants protect the aphids since they drink their liquid.  last summer i put tanglefoot around the trunk and the 4 main branch lines.  this seemed to slow down the ants, but did not really help with the aphid problem.  i bought some ladybugs online and released about a thousand of them onto the peach tree.  they stayed a few days, but left shortly after. 

anyone have a suggestion regarding the aphids?  the tree is very tall and i can't even reach the top to try to manually monitor the leaves. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: tuttimato on February 04, 2016, 07:15:40 PM
Please tell us more about the copper repelling borers.  I need all the help I can get with 4 plums and 6 peach trees.

I've never heard of aphids on fruit trees but horticultural oil spray smothers aphids I get on other crops and it's recommended as a dormant spray for other maladies on trees.  Some people get results on aphids with soap spray. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on February 04, 2016, 08:14:34 PM
hi!  yes, the dormant spray i made i found the recipe for online.  it had dish soap, peroxide, baking soda and can't remember what else at this moment.  :(  i spray it on my peach tree during the early spring before the buds set on.  don't know if that is right, but it has worked so far. 

my husband's aunt was was the person who told me to put pennies by my peach tree and my roses.  she said it helps the plants suck up copper and make it able to drive off the borers and fungus.    i did google copper on peach trees at the time and saw it was common practice to spray with copper to kill disease and borers.  they had info on liquids you could buy, but as i am on a tight budget, i went the penny route.

if it helps, my aunt also mentioned to plant garlic around the peach trees.  it drives off the borers too. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: tuttimato on February 05, 2016, 11:05:03 AM
Thanks.  I have plenty of pennies that aren't much good for anything else and it won't hurt to try it.  I'll also have lots of little garlic cloves to replant at harvest time.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: PawPaw gene on February 05, 2016, 03:15:44 PM
Remember if you want copper you need old pennies for new ones are made of zinc.
"gene"
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Vince6424 on February 06, 2016, 04:43:53 AM
IMO it would take a very long time for the copper contained in the pennies to leach in the top soil and be made available for the tree roots. Having said this I always spray my peach trees with a 'bouillie bordelaise' solution (contains copper oxide) in early spring when the buds are swelling to prevent/control peach leaf. It works a treat. Never had aphid problems on my peach trees. Would you be able to post a photo so we can see/double check what the problem might be?
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: jimmiec on February 13, 2016, 04:51:13 AM
Is there a sticky residue on and below the tree?  The honeydew is probably what the ants are eating / collecting.  In July, we have a tree pest that drops honeydew and then sooty mold grows. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on February 14, 2016, 05:37:27 AM
no, there is nothing on the ground.  i did notice that at least 1 borer is back.  i saw a little place on the tree where that dark amber goop is on the branch.  i am going to spray again monday when it warms up again here.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: LakeRat1 on March 05, 2016, 01:33:22 PM
Woodchip< if U can in years to come, try and get the tree down to a height that U can reach, I took on a Old Peach tree just about like the one that U are describing, I didn't cut it all back at the same time, I did it over a 2 year period, now that old tree has 4 main branches, and I can reach the top of it easy with my hand sprayer, the tree is now like a bowl, once U can get a peach tree to growing like this, I will hold more fruit, and is easy to harvest, If U will check with some of the online sources, U will fine some picture showing how your tree should look,

They recommend for when U are planting a new tree, to cut if off about 16 to 18 inches high, this is where U make it form the 3 or 4 branched that will be your main tree, nothing in the middle

Good Luck with Your Peach tree,

Rat 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 06, 2016, 11:35:07 AM
hi rat.  this tree is very old.  i am afraid if i prune it too much it will just die.  hold on, i think i have a pic from the winter of the overall shape.

i did prune off the dead branches when i undertook to bring it back.  i read that peaches grow on last year's growth.  i did have good growth again last year.

i have read several sites on pruning.  i am just afraid to over due it do to the age of the tree.  most of the growth is on the upper ends of the branches.  i don't think i would have any peaches at all if i cut it down from the top.  i do agree it could use a bit of thinning though. 

i will look for some pics. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 06, 2016, 11:51:50 AM
this was feb 2015.  i will have my hub take a better pic later today when he gets home, but for now gives you a ref on size.  that is our well house on the left.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: cappy on March 06, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
We live too far south for peaches and all the locals say they will just break your heart.  After research and consulting LSU we decided to give a yum yum tree a try.  Its a type of nectarine.  It's still small and we got a few fruit off of it last year and are hoping for the best.  This year was no winter at all hardly and the silly thing has put forth blooms twice already I hope it makes a few fruit again and will let yall know.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: LakeRat1 on March 06, 2016, 09:36:54 PM
woodchip, I can tell that when that tree was first planted it was cut off low to the ground to make it form a bowl type tree, the tree I cut back was bigger than the one U have there, if that were my tree I would do part of it one year them the other part the next year,

I haven't tried to post a picture on the new form, I just gave up trying on the old site, I figured I was just to old to learn, I would love to show U what I did with this old tree, I know for sure its over 20 years old, the first year I cut 2 off the main limbs, 1 on 1 side & the other on the other side, I cut those to limbs back to about 3 ft from the ground, I did this when the tree was dormant, that spring sure enough new growth came out on the ends of the one cut, I kept more of the growth than I wanted, knowing that later I wood cut some of that out
Now 4 or 5 years later, the tree is kept to about 7 ft. those 4 new limbs that I have grown are all bushed out,  I top it out at about 7 ft every time I prune it

Rat

there is a peach orchard not to far from where I live, they have a machine that cuts the top of the trees flat across the top, they drive through the orchard and cut the all the same height every year, the trees are never allowed to get any taller

If U notice on your branched they are big spaces with out and small branches, except as it get towards the top
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 07, 2016, 12:05:04 PM
well rat, if you think it will work then i may give it a try this coming fall once it goes dormant.  i will only do half at a time in case it does not react well. 

as for the pictures...right below your reply you will see

+attachments and other options

it will open up other options.  you will see

Attach:
and then a little box that says
Browse....
click the browse button.

it will open up a new window that will let you access your computer files.  you can locate where you store the picture you want to share.
there are size limits on pictures, so i tend to size mine down and then save the smaller copy to the desktop to make it easier to find when i want to upload it.

click on the photo you want to attach. 
hit the open button on the lower right side

it will close that window and you should see the file name of your picture next to the 'browse...' button under the Attach:

if you want to upload multiple pics, just choose the
(more attachments)
and it will give you several more
Browse..... buttons.

hope this helps!



Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: LakeRat1 on March 07, 2016, 06:41:34 PM
Woodchip >< I will take a couple pictures and see if I can make it happen >< U Make it sound easy, I will give it a try

Rat
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: LakeRat1 on March 07, 2016, 06:46:48 PM
Woodchip >< I just though about something else, if That is a Good Peach & U don't know the name of the Peach, U might want to think about planting another peach tree & them Graf it with cuttings from the Old Tree >< Grafting fruit trees is not very hard to do, >< There is a lot of info. online for doing it

Rat
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 07, 2016, 09:57:13 PM
i don't know what kind they are, but the peaches taste amazing.  we had some this past summer and they were delicious.  i even made a peach pie!   i will look into the grafting...if for no other reason than sooner or later it will stop producing and need to come down.   it would be nice to have a next generation of the same tree already growing.  :)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: hunter4559 on March 14, 2016, 09:04:27 PM
Your tree has some good scaffolding on it but it definately needs to be pruned up. Peach trees,(and other fruit trees) love to be pruned. It's essential for good tree health. I know it's seems scary to start whacking off the tree but believe me, unless you cut it off at the ground your not going to kill it. As a matter of fact I have one that I DID cut off at the ground and guess what......it sent up new shoots!
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 16, 2016, 04:02:10 PM
yes, a little nervous to hack at it.  but if it will live, then i will make it happen.

went out this morning.  buds are just about to open.   and of course it will go down near freezing sunday night. 

cross your fingers for me that it stays above freezing.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: hunter4559 on March 16, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
yes, a little nervous to hack at it.  but if it will live, then i will make it happen.

went out this morning.  buds are just about to open.   and of course it will go down near freezing sunday night. 

cross your fingers for me that it stays above freezing.


I'm in the exact same boat as you. Buds just dying to break out and suppose to get down to 26 deg Sunday night!  :-\
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 17, 2016, 08:13:50 PM
was upper 70's again here today and the peach tree couldn't wait.  i saw the first few pokes of the pretty deep pink color today.  it is pretty, but hopefully it will wait to open the rest.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: hunter4559 on March 18, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
Freeze warning in effect tonight from 1AM till 9AM tomorrow morning and again Sat night. Well, so much for me getting any peaches this year!!  :-[
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: cappy on March 18, 2016, 10:42:49 PM
Our yum yum was very pink this morning with small leaves beginning to show.  It tried valiantly to exude its peachy fragrance but was over powered by the lemon monster behind it.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 27, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
well, i think the frost got the buds/flowers.  i peeked at the tree this morning before we got in the car and i see some new leaves, but most of the flowers are brown tinged and dying off.  i am hoping some of the late budding ones will survive and at least get some.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: agragarden on March 28, 2016, 04:05:54 AM
Woodchip.............. I hope you get some peaches too.. Im out this morning watering my trees , but the temps are not on my side , at 4 am 31 degree . Watering about ever 15 mins.

    Rick
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 28, 2016, 08:01:39 AM
you are a dedicated peach tree owner.  :)

i hope your efforts can save your blooms.  good luck!

let me know how it worked out.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: MikeM on March 28, 2016, 10:06:37 AM
I think a lot of would like to see if the sprinkling worked or not.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 05, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
agra...did the watering work?

there is a new thread on here asking about peach trees and frost.  if it did, you might want to go give him some instructions.

we are due another frost here tonight as well.  :(
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: jimmiec on April 05, 2016, 09:54:33 AM
What about adding some seaweed extract or little salt (may be Epsom salt) to the watering to help prevent frost?  Another would to hang some older style Christmas lights (non LED) that would provide a little heat for the fruit.  I see you mentioned the Christmas lights in the other thread.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: corl on April 05, 2016, 10:04:27 AM
Some years you get peaches. This year the trees are in full bloom and the nights are freezing - mid 20s. This may not be the year.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: agragarden on April 05, 2016, 10:11:13 AM
   Yes guys it did work the temp got down to 28 about daylite  and they were freezing little droplets of water when i would get back for another watering. But thats a pain in the area i sit on. Ive done it once more since , but it only got down to 31. Peaches are doing fine with dime size peaches growing.

    Rick
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 16, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
well, i thought the 2 nights of below freezing would have killed my peach buds, but some of the survived!  i have a dozen or so little peaches that i saw on the tree today.   now if they don't drop, i might actually get some peaches this season after all  :)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: hunter4559 on April 16, 2016, 07:48:45 PM
 After 7 or 8 nights that got below freezing after my peach tree started blooming (one night it got down to 26 deg) my tree is starting to put on peaches. You could'a blown me away like a dandilion seed!  :o
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on June 17, 2016, 05:49:17 PM
well, after the few nights of freezing at bloom time, the tree did set some peaches.  then most of them dropped.  i had about 1/2 a dozen left on the tree and i found 3 on the ground when i mowed earlier today.

this is not the year for peaches.  i am seeing a good amount of new growth...so maybe next year.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on July 31, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
well, of the 6 that were left on the tree, i got 3.  1 decent sized one and 2 smaller ones.  the other 3 did hang on the tree, but the bugs got them.  i brought the 3 good ones in to finish ripening on the counter.  we had the big one for dinner a couple of nights ago.  it was delicious.  hopefully the smaller 2 will be as good.

if we get to stay here, i am going to do a couple of dormant sprays over the winter.  i did notice amber goo on some of the branches so the borers are back.  :(

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: MikeM on July 31, 2016, 04:39:43 PM
Everything we planted are fairly late bearing to beat some late frost issues.  It didn't help that the deer killed 4 of the 5 trees planted 2 years ago.  We got several this year but we didn't leave too many on the tree due to its size.

At least you got a taste of your own peaches.   8)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Vince6424 on January 07, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
Photos taken this afternoon. Our two trees are loaded again this year. I always plant too much, me bad :) Gave a full bag to our next door neighbors.

(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/vlanoiselet/IMG_2909_zps9sqisaeu.jpg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/vlanoiselet/media/IMG_2909_zps9sqisaeu.jpg.html)

(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/vlanoiselet/IMG_2910_zpsbs1qdeig.jpg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/vlanoiselet/media/IMG_2910_zpsbs1qdeig.jpg.html)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: MikeM on January 07, 2017, 08:28:44 AM
Vince - I need to print your pictures and put them on my window so I don't see the ice and snow.  I could possibly forget that it is 5 degrees out too when we carry hot water out to give the sheep to melt the ice in the trough.  :D
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Vince6424 on January 07, 2017, 08:34:50 AM
Trust me, I feel like doing the same with the forum photos when it is winter down here :) I enjoy this forum very much. Can't wait to come over next October to the Get Together.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Vince6424 on January 07, 2017, 08:49:09 AM
Nice 86F here tomorrow and 95F on Monday  8). Zero heat wave so far this summer. Good thing.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Vince6424 on January 07, 2017, 08:50:44 AM
Hotest day this summer was 106F  :o
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: OrangeTxn on January 08, 2017, 05:47:51 AM
Vince - I always enjoy seeing the pics and progress of your fruit trees.  Weatherwise, the area where you're located is obviously pretty unique.  Your winters allow enough chilling hours to produce stone fruit varieties, yet it must not freeze often to damage more tropical fruit varieties.  The best of both worlds.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on January 08, 2017, 03:27:58 PM
Photos taken this afternoon. Our two trees are loaded again this year. I always plant too much, me bad :) Gave a full bag to our next door neighbors.

(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/vlanoiselet/IMG_2909_zps9sqisaeu.jpg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/vlanoiselet/media/IMG_2909_zps9sqisaeu.jpg.html)

(http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a450/vlanoiselet/IMG_2910_zpsbs1qdeig.jpg) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/vlanoiselet/media/IMG_2910_zpsbs1qdeig.jpg.html)


Wow! What a beautiful site!

Thanks for the update
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on January 08, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
vincent, those peaches look amazing!  maybe you can make some freezer jam if you don't want to get into canning them.

or maybe a pie  :)

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Double B on January 08, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
Vince,

Those pictures make my mouth water. Those peaches look so good and if I were there I am quite sure I would have a belly ache tomorrow. I make a simple syrup and put them in the freezer and they stay good for years. They are particularly good on top of some ice cream :) :) :)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 03, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
well kids my peach tree buds are just about to open.  i am hoping they hold off until sunday as we are due a hard frost tonight and just above freezing tomorrow night.   last year i lost a ton of flowers to the freeze and it was a pretty sad year for peaches.

i did some pruning earlier this winter after the tree went dormant to take off some of the dead limbs. 

i think if i don't get some decent fruit set this year i am going to do one of those super harsh 'reinvigorating' hard core pruning and bring it back down to a decent height to let it grow out again.  it did put some new shoots on lower in the tree the last couple of years, so hopefully if i hard core prune it it can bounce back.



Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 26, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
ug.  i was out planting yesterday and stopped to look at the peach tree.  the little leaves are sprouting everywhere...

lots of dead flowers.  no little baby peaches anywhere.


hard core pruning it is.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on March 26, 2017, 05:39:19 AM
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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: LakeRat1 on March 26, 2017, 09:28:03 AM
Do the Hard core Pruning >< U will not be sorry, >< only thing, where U cut off big limbs, cover those cuts with something to prevent that from setting in to rot, there is some kind of Pruning Tar, cant remember the name, I think it may be water base, seems like if it got to thick, U add just a small amount of water to get it back to the point where U can apply it

Rat
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: 1shotwade on April 01, 2017, 09:26:57 AM
Woodchip here is a link on air propagation that should get you plenty of "back-up" starts of your tree.This guy as a lot of very helpful tips on youtube.
Wade

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SER1vZZWtwg
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 01, 2017, 10:12:06 AM
hi rat.  thanks for the info on the pruning tar.  i will look into it.

hi wade.  thanks for the video.  it might be a good idea for me to root out a few of the new little growth as a back up just in case the tree does not react well to the pruning.  i am planing to stick to the 'no more than 1/3 of the growth' per season rule, so it will take at least a couple of years to see how it does.  if it does well, i will still have some new peach trees to put somewhere else in the yard  :)

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: GopherBroke on April 01, 2017, 03:01:15 PM
I lived next to an apple orchard in Michigan for several years an the workers told me to prune my trees so you could throw a cat through the tree.  Don't know if that applies to peach trees? 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 02, 2017, 07:05:31 AM
lol gopher...that is a visual for ya huh.  my neighbor does feed the ferral cats...hmmm...lol.

yes, from my previous reading air flow is an important part of healthy peaches.  they grow peach trees to an open center where the branches are trained to almost form a cup.  you prune the top growth to keep it open as the new growth sets on.

my peach tree was shaped into the proper shape, it seems like they just stopped pruning and the top got a bit crazy.  peaches grow on the previous year's wood growth, so right now the bulk of my peaches are growing 10 to 20' in the air.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: GopherBroke on April 02, 2017, 07:52:15 AM
my peaches are growing 10 to 20' in the air.  That is why we have kids! 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: MikeM on April 02, 2017, 08:00:26 AM
I keep our fruit trees cut fairly short as I'm not wanting to use a ladder to harvest fruit on our hills.  I get less fruit but I can reach it all.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 14, 2017, 06:28:27 PM
well, the deed is done.  i cut off one of the main branches of the peach tree.  it was growing the tallest, right up through the middle of the tree and was the only one with no new growth lower down.  i left the base of the main branch and cut it right as it branched out into the 2 large branches.  i was glad i chose this one because when i cut off the first end of the branch it had the darker stain color where it was dying off inside. both cuts looked ok where it was left on the tree.

i did some reading up on the sealant.  it turns out they don't recommend sealing the cuts anymore.  the web said the tree will heal over by itself, especially if it is pruned in times other than when it is dormant.  so i left them as is. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 27, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
exciting news!  i was out in the yard and passed the peach tree.  know what i saw?  a little peach!  when i check the tree there are about 7 on there.  don't know if all of them will make it past the june drop, but for now they are actually growing!

the weird part is there were none that i could see when i went out to do that hard core prune.  maybe the pruning of that big branch kicked it into grow cycle? 

so excited!
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on May 04, 2017, 03:08:38 PM
Sorry I am so late in finding your post Chips.

I hope your tree hangs on to those peaches.

If you get a chance post a few pictures.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on May 05, 2017, 05:43:04 PM
hey maggie

i sent hub out to take a pic of one of the peaches.  there are only about 7 on the tree, but hey, considering i thought there would be none...7 is a win.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on May 06, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
Yes it is!
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on July 14, 2017, 10:47:44 AM
well, i had 4 peaches on the tree this year.  i have pulled the only one that has not split/been attacked by bugs/pecked by the birds.  it is blushed up but not quite ripe so it is sitting on the table waiting it soften up.   

it is funny because i remember looking at the tree after the hard frost killed the flowers and telling it all i wanted was 1 good peach, was that too much to ask?   well, it obliged.  i got 1 good peach.  lol.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on July 17, 2017, 05:07:41 PM
well, we ate the peach and it was delicious! 

i have in the past done the refrigerate the seed for chill time, then plant the seed, etc.  nothing ever came of it.

i have decided to completely disregard what i read on the web and do what i want  (lol...nothing new there...)

i put on my gloves (according to the web the actual pit is chock full of cyanide...so better safe than sorry), cracked that bad boy open with a slot head screwdriver and put just the seed part into a small plastic pot of dirt in the big window.  if it grows, so be it...if not, nothing lost.  if by some miracle it comes up, i am planning on growing in the window over the winter and transplant outside next spring.

if and when this little bad boy pops up, i will be sure to update.  :)

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on January 28, 2018, 04:28:13 PM
i was out in the yard a couple of days ago and decided to do the next piece of rejuvenation pruning.  i cut off a major branch that had grown to be the highest on the tree.  i also cut off one of the side branches on a lower limb.  it looked like it had no new growth on the ends from last season, so it had to go.

i am glad to report the 2 points that had sprouted last summer after I cut off the first limb now have several little branches of their own starting.  I think it is working!

it is raining today, but will try to get pics tomorrow.  hopefully it will bounce back and we will get a decent amount of peaches this year!
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on January 28, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
We are finding hard pruning on old fruit trees is good for the tree.I read the rule is take off no more than one third of the tree each year.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: jimmiec on January 30, 2018, 10:22:56 AM
Started pink budding already here.  Of coarse not too many insects to pollinate.  Hope we all get a lot of budding and peaches set this year. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on January 30, 2018, 10:14:02 PM
no budding here yet jimmie.  which is good because there is a chance of freezing rain here on sunday.  :(

yes, here's hoping we all get peaches  :)
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 05, 2018, 10:15:52 PM
Hey everyone,
I have been reading y'alls conversations and i was kind of in the same boat.  I planted 3 peach trees, 2 apple trees and 3 pear trees 2 summers ago.  Last year they were all full of foliage and some had flowers but have not seen any fruit yet.  I know it usually takes 3 years before they set fruit so hoping this summer we might see something as well.  I did a major pruning job a couple of days ago, the first time they have been pruned since I planted them.  I watched several videos on apple and pear trees.  I already had a pretty good grasp on the goblet peach tree cut, I live about a 2 miles from a 500 acre peach orchard so I have spent many days watching them prune.  Here are a couple of pictures from last summer, they look pretty long and spindly, hoping my pruning job pays off.  I'll post post pruned trees tomorrow.

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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 05, 2018, 10:24:03 PM
Wow!!! I just got a really good look at them, they look horrible.  I took off a good portion of those tall branches so I expect  they will look much better this summer.
1. Macintosh Apple
2.Georgia Belle Peach
3. Hale Haven Peach
4. Elberta Peach (root stock)
5. Golden Delicious Apple
I guess I don't have pictures of the pears, but they are 2 Pineapple Pears and a Bartlet I think.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 07, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
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This might be trouble, it's still a little early to have blooms coming out.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on February 07, 2018, 07:06:07 PM
Hi GC

If that second picture was your peach tree, then you will need to do some pruning.  Peach trees are usually pruned to an open center with just 4 main limbs that go out and away from the center.  Here is a good, short video to get you started.  He has a series of them by tree age.  you would not prune a mature tree (like the old one in my yard) like a new tree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvXhRKR90Y

you will want to watch some pruning videos as each tree you are growing will have individual pruning needs.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 08, 2018, 07:22:35 AM
Oh yea believe me Woodchip I have been researching for weeks.  I think I have done a pretty good job of pruning I will post some pictures this spring when they get some leaves on them they are kids hard to see right now.  I never knew how important it is to prune tour trees and especially 1/3 every year.  Maybe we will have some fruit this year or at least a lot of flowers.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 23, 2018, 05:05:55 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of one of my Pineapple Pear trees and a peach tree.  I can't my believe they are already flowering.  Praying we don't have another late freeze.

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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on February 24, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
My fingers are crossed that you do not get a killing frost.
Are the bees active ?
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 24, 2018, 05:14:51 PM
I have not seen any bees, I'm guessing they won't be around for a little while now.  I am supposed to put in some fertilizer spikes at the end of May.  Hoping I might get another round of blooms.  The weather is so crazy.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: MikeM on February 24, 2018, 08:00:33 PM
We had a late freeze last year and out of a dozen assorted fruit trees we got 6 pears and a couple of peaches.  That was it.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: tangentalstorm on February 25, 2018, 06:27:00 AM
I am going to be putting in about 16-20 fruit trees this year and you guys are scaring me half to death....lol

I know almost nothing about fruit trees to be honest.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Double B on February 25, 2018, 08:16:01 AM
Tangentalsrorm,

You need to get some information about chill hours before you buy any fruit trees. Once you find your average chill hours, it will dictate which types of apples, peaches, pears, etc. will do good in your area. Your county extension service can probably email you that information even before you return home. Many times the big box stores will sell any trees they get their hands on unknowing whether it will produce in your zone. Down here if we had a tree that needed 600 chill hours it would never set fruit. You may live in an area that gets 1,000 chill hours. Do a little research and it will pay huge dividends in the long run.   http://getchill.net/   will tell you how many chill hours you have had so far. As of a few minutes ago we have had 289. Therefore we have to have low hour trees.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on February 25, 2018, 09:57:54 AM
We have had SO FAR 2550 chill hours using that chart.(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Smilies/i-5R4pHFr/0/3c8c2d3e/O/BVBrrr.gif)

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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Double B on February 25, 2018, 10:23:25 AM
I think that's how many inches of rain we have had in the last three years Maggie ;D

On a serious note, that's why you can grow many of the apples and other varieties that we can't. There are only a few varieties of apples that we can grow here.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 25, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
Good point Double B, we had a pretty cool winter this year, so I am hoping for at least some pears or peaches this summer.  Chill hours are very important.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: tangentalstorm on February 25, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Thanks all.... I have done some time researching the theory of growing fruit trees but don't have any actual hands on experience and I have found it's one thing to know the theory of something, it's quite another to put it into practice...the putting it into practice is my worry. That's probably why I am looking at putting in so many at once...redundancy in case I screw it up. That and my woman is getting bees this spring and I want to make sure the bees have something to work with and cornfields don't cut it from everything I have read.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on February 26, 2018, 10:30:58 AM
I started my orchard 2 years ago.  I am adding 4 new trees every year for the next several years.  My ultimate goal is to have around 20 assorted trees.   I have 8 right now and have only lost 1, I have a big project to get water out there this year.  I have been just hand watering them but I know as I get more I will need water a lot closer.  I also had know idea what I was doing at first but have spent a lot of time on You Tube and other articles.  I find the extensions in your area have some of the best info.  Prunning has been a major reseach topic from me this year, there is a lot I didn't know.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: tangentalstorm on February 26, 2018, 10:39:44 AM
GC...have you looked at the water bags...I forget the real name of them right now. From what I understand they slowly water them over a few days and hold like 5 gallons per bag. They look like those old inflatable butt donuts. I am going to use them so I don't have to worry about wasting water. I am also going to put each one of the trees inside of a 6'  T-post and chicken wire enclosure to keep Bambi off of them.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 03, 2018, 02:14:34 PM
it is supposed to be hovering near freezing at night for about the next week here.  the peach tree buds have started to swell, but are not big enough or open yet.  i hope they hold off long enough to get through the next week.   :(
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on March 03, 2018, 11:15:56 PM
Well all 3 pear and 2 of my peach trees are in full bloom right now, and unfortunately we are supposed to be around 32 degrees on Thursday.  Last year I had a similar experience and covered all my trees with garbage bags.  Will one night of around freezing temps be enough to kill the buds?  Any other ideas to help cover them that won't break the bank? Sure wish it would either stay cold or get hot and quit going back and forth.
     Also I took some pictures of the peach orchard down the street from the house.  This particular field is about 400 acres.

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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Georgia Clay on March 03, 2018, 11:17:42 PM
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Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Maggie13 on March 04, 2018, 06:40:01 AM
Wow those trees are beautiful!
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: GopherBroke on March 04, 2018, 05:00:59 PM
I lived in the corner of a 40 acre apple orchard for 12 years.   Spring was 2nd most favorite time.   After they harvested in Oct there were always a few apples that were left on the trees an a cold crisp yellow delicious apple with a red blush was a real treat.   Peaches have always been a favorite too.    Hope this spring is just what you want.   
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: jimmiec on March 05, 2018, 07:59:42 AM
^^^ Wow, I have some pruning to do.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Chapman on March 08, 2018, 07:33:23 AM
Here's an interesting article about the peaches in Ruston La.
http://www.ksla.com/story/37663095/louisiana-peach-farmers-are-expecting-a-good-harvest?utm_source=The+Daily+Voice&utm_campai
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Ben on March 08, 2018, 11:36:15 AM


Chapman-- thanks for the post.  I can see peach cobber on the horizon.

Ben









Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: Chapman on March 08, 2018, 07:25:03 PM
Ben, that sounds good.  Those Ruston peaches are really good. 
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 12, 2018, 10:16:45 AM
it snowed here this morning.  my little one got out of school early due to the weather and i was watching out the back door for the bus to come down the road.  i was staring through the yard and noticed the beautiful pink/peach colored flower buds all over my peach tree.

so much for peaches for this year.  :(
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: jimmiec on March 13, 2018, 11:29:52 AM
^ Hopefully not all the buds had opened and there will be some more once it warms up again.
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on March 29, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
well, the peach tree had a ton of flowers on it once they did open all the way.  it was cold here at night, but hopefully it was nice enough during the day hours that some of the flowers will give me some peaches.

the little leaves are busting out now, so it is just time to wait and see.  :)

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 03, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
the leaves are popping out all over the tree now and the little flowers are starting to die off.  i hope at least some of them will make it to peaches.

Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: agragarden on April 04, 2018, 07:44:27 AM
   Woodchip............  Hope your trees make a few at the least.   It got down to 25 here in central Okla. last nite. Still well below freezing so I don't have much hope for mine. I tried covering one tree with a large tarp but the wind got up to 40 and50 mph yesterday . The tarp got tore to threads .  For me I'm thinking better luck next year.

    Rick
Title: Re: peach tree
Post by: woodchip gardener on April 05, 2018, 08:41:20 AM
i'm crossing my fingers for you that you at least get 1!   :)