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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ccat on July 28, 2018, 11:31:32 AM

Title: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: ccat on July 28, 2018, 11:31:32 AM
Our official move to Northern Alabama is done and now just the wait on our new house build.
I did however purchase a new tiller and got started yesterday on running my friends Turning Plow.
So far, my garden for next year is 80'x150', but I"ll finish it around 100'x150'.
My question for the forum is WHAT TO DO NOW???
My friend (Country Toad) ordered 15 pounds of GroundHog Radish and will give me 5 pounds to apply for this fall/winter.
Is there anything else I can be doing?
I'll spread lime on it later on and will gather up all leaves I can get this fall and till them in.
This garden was just a field and never had anything other than hay grass on it.
Excuse the glare on the pics.  It was 8:00 this morning when I snapped the pics
Thanks for any advice.
ccat
Title: Re: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: Maggie13 on July 28, 2018, 11:45:55 AM
I have no wisdom to offer you but I did want to say Congrats and I look forward to following along.
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Post by: Rabbitproof on July 28, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Ditto what  Maggie said....looks like you are off to a good start!
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Post by: Chapman on July 28, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
  Looks like a nice place.  Congrats  :)
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Post by: NewKYhome on July 28, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
CCAT -  Congrats on an awesome place for you to have and be able to work!!  Looks like you have a great start to getting it in shape.

I would take a couple of soil samples prior to the lime going on and send them to your local agent to see what you are dealing with from a Ph standpoint.  After you get the samples, I would till it a couple of times and broadcast the radishes, some  tendergreen mustard greens and some type of peas on the garden - you may get some harvest for the fall, but mainly for tillage into the soil.

Not sure how many deer you have, but it looks like the habitat is good for them - and you are in N AL..... Maybe start planning for an electric fence around the garden if you have a good many there.
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Post by: The Country Toad on July 28, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
a friends plow.....  Thanx for the shout out   hahaha!

hey i got alfalfa on the way too!
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Post by: MikeM on July 28, 2018, 09:04:04 PM
Congratulations, Moving is always an adventure and hopefully this is a good one for you. :)

What part of North Alabama?
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Post by: crazyhorse on July 29, 2018, 02:51:06 AM
Mr Cat, congratulations.
Looks good.
I hope you enjoy it for many years.
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Post by: Double B on July 29, 2018, 08:17:44 AM
Congratulations ccat,

A move is a lot of work but a fresh start is exciting too! Once you till and kill most of the grass, I would order the soil savy test kit from Amazon and take a sample. I feel it is one of the best testing kits available today as it gives you so much information about what nutrients are available and also lacking. It comes directly to your email and is very handy.

You may want to prepare you a row for planting fall onions, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and such if y'all eat that. Soil builders such as the radishes, elbon rye, mustard greens, crimson clover and others will add green manure, suppress weeds and get you ready for spring.

Best of luck and please keep us posted,
Double B
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Post by: whitestrout on July 29, 2018, 12:09:30 PM
congratulations ccat   it is a good time to start planning and fall planting of fruit trees, blueberrys, figs, ect. the ones that should only be planted once. Now is the best time before to plan for the permanent part of gardens and orchards.  northern Bama is beautiful.  good luck
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Post by: agragarden on July 29, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
c-cat....  GO   FISHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rick
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Post by: bigboberta on July 29, 2018, 07:00:54 PM
Congrats, nice looking spread.  Good Luck

Bob
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Post by: ccat on July 30, 2018, 07:23:40 AM
c-cat....  GO   FISHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rick
Rick.......Wednesday will be my "first" trip on Wheeler as a resident
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Post by: bordercollie on July 30, 2018, 08:51:29 AM
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)   Have fun !!
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Post by: Daniel Grant on July 30, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Congratulations on the move and fresh start. I would till several times with the rear flap of the tiller up. This leaves the grass and weeds mostly on the surface. I would do this every 2 to 3 weeks. I would plant a mix of buckwheat, crimson clover, radishes, Austrian winter pears, and broadleaf mustard. The broadleaf when tilled under releases a gas as it decomposes and will reduce nematodes if present. This mixture will create a lot of organic matter. The clover will bloom with beautiful red flowers and die back in April. It will reseed itself as will the buckwheat. I strongly recommend the soil test. You need to know what the soil needs and in what proportions. I used the county extension office and in GA it was $8.00. You can plant your onions and if you like soft neck garlic in late November or early December. You may find the pasture grass pretty tenacious and difficult to get rid of. You will know by late October and if still returning you may need to turn to the dark side and use a contact burn down.
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Post by: Daniel Grant on July 31, 2018, 12:54:20 AM
I've had eye surgery and my typing is a bit off. It should have read Austrian Winter Peas...not pears. Sorry if that created any confusion. When you till with the rear flap up and leave the weeds and grass mostly on the surface the sun dries it out and kills what is left on the surface. .
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Post by: crazyhorse on July 31, 2018, 03:29:48 AM
Mr Daniel , I agree.

I hope you are doing well after your surgery and will be well soon.
God bless you sir.
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Post by: ccat on July 31, 2018, 07:41:19 PM
Thanks yall,
I did till today with the gate lifted up.
I tilled in 80# of Lime, as it was all I had on hand.   I know it wasn't much for that big of a garden, but it will help.
I am planting a cover crop of the radishes and apparently some alfalfa (country toad ordered us some), but may mix in some other mustards as well.
I like the post above about mustards killing nematodes.   
Soil test will be in a few weeks.
I did plant 1/2# of turnips for some fall greens. :)
I have plenty of bacon grease for a few messes of greens.
Thanks again yall
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Post by: NewKYhome on July 31, 2018, 08:13:50 PM
Great you got to till again and put some lime in that will certainly help.  Can't beat greens and bacon grease.

More importantly, did you catch any fish and when should we come for the fish fry???   8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: Greg on August 02, 2018, 12:52:53 PM
Hi ccat,

My garden is about the same size as yours and it was nothing but pasture before I plowed it up.

You need to have a soil sample done before next season. Do you have lot of clay? (Being in Alabama) You'll need to break that up...

The big thing for me was that just because my garden space had been pasture, it didn't have good nutrient distribution. I trucked in 25 tons of sheep manure to augment the soil. I also plowed deep. A couple times a month I rototill the whole thing to keep the clay from settling and work in the soil augments.

After that, I don't plow anymore, only rototill. Trust that roots will break up the deep soil. Bringing the clay back to the top is really bad for the garden.
In other words, I plowed the whole garden the first year...now I won't plow at all ever, but just rototill.

-greg
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Post by: tangentalstorm on August 03, 2018, 01:11:48 PM
ccat...that is gorgeous fertile looking flat ground you have there...I'm jealous. Congrats!
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Post by: ccat on August 05, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
.....and a few more pics of the toys for the tractor.
Got the Tiller (brand new) last week and the cultivator back in November for $130.   A little steel brushing, paint and elbow grease and it looks good as new.  I did miss my mark on the Kubota "orange".......more like Hunter Orange.
Oh well, I should be safe in November/December.... ;D
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Post by: MikeM on August 05, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
That machine will do good for you :)
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Post by: ccat on September 16, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
A week ago, I planted 5 pounds of GroundHog Radish, 4 pounds of Rape and 2 pounds of Turnips.
I planted with a hand planter, tilled it all under a bit and let mother nature water it in. ;D
Here is the left half of my garden and the GroundHog Radish.  It's probably about 40x120 and coming along nicely.    The greens are a little bit behind the radish, but no worries.  It's all for tilling in later on.
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Post by: bobcatgardener on September 16, 2018, 02:32:53 PM
Looking good ccat!

As far as the paint you can get the colors at tractor supply to match. I know the new Holland blue is exact. The kubota orange looks exactly the same also
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Post by: Maggie13 on September 16, 2018, 06:17:28 PM
Mother Nature has done a good job germinating your seeds.
 That is a nice size garden.
Title: Re: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: ccat on September 20, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
Ran the overhead in various spots on the greens today but mowed the 5 acres and swept a bunch of it to finally start my compost.
My good friend (Country Toad) gave me the recipe for some beer/soda/ammonia concoction to help kickstart the compost pile.
I will spray it down this weekend and add more grass and coffee grounds as well.
When residents of Athens start putting bags of leaves on the curb next month, I'll swoop in a reap the rewards and spread them on the pile too.
Here's the start of my compost pile.
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Post by: Maggie13 on September 21, 2018, 06:27:52 AM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Smilies/i-3wPdG7Q/0/d29ec6ba/O/TwoThumbs%20Up.gif) We just turned our compost pile yesterday and found "Black gold"!
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Post by: Rabbitproof on September 21, 2018, 10:10:43 AM
Boy....have sort of stopped the composting pile....y'all make we want to crank it back up. Have a compost barrel too.....have ignored it for awhile. Getting slack here!!
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Post by: Ragun Gardener on September 21, 2018, 10:37:10 AM
Keep it watered and turned with just that grass. It'll make a mat and won't let water get to the bottom and turn to mush and stink.
Title: Re: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: ccat on September 21, 2018, 04:48:39 PM
I sure will.  I'll use the tractor to turn it and will every few days.
I am waiting on the leaves to fall so I can add that.
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Post by: CORVETTE62US on October 03, 2018, 07:53:51 PM
I would use a 3pt. Tiller now then plant radishes. Use a drag harrow to cover them up.
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Post by: MikeM on October 04, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
ccat - your mention of picking up leaves brought back a fond memory for me.  When my kids were growing up we lived in Pensacola and I would stop and pick up bagged grass and leaves for my compost pile.  If my son was with me he was so afraid that someone might see him that he would slide down almost on the floor so none of his friends would see him.   ;D
Title: Re: FINALLY!!!!
Post by: ccat on October 04, 2018, 08:06:59 PM
ccat - your mention of picking up leaves brought back a fond memory for me.  When my kids were growing up we lived in Pensacola and I would stop and pick up bagged grass and leaves for my compost pile.  If my son was with me he was so afraid that someone might see him that he would slide down almost on the floor so none of his friends would see him.   ;D
Yeah Mike.....it's fun when we "parents" embarrass our kids.... :)